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From May 5, 2002


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"Container Pool".

There Was Something Under There

After All

May 30 2002

In January 2002 We Posted A Dramatic Photo To Our Special Feature "SINGLES ONLY"

Our Internet feature "SINGLES ONLY" is for individual pictures which do not merit a seperate feature page.

In this instance, the photo presented a bit of a mystery. Sure there was no vessel involved, we said. But what were the details? This appeared to be flooded container yard. It happens all the time. We doubted that vessels were involved.

Following is our original "SINGLES ONLY" posting from Jan. 2002, directly below. Also Following Is A New Chapter To The Story.

What The Hell Did We Really Know? Our assumptions for this loss were not correct! This was not a container yard problem -- This is A Cargo Nightmare Prize Contender !

"Container Pool" - Jan. 2002

Our Reader Is From Texas -- But The Origin of This Photo Remains Under Study. Do You Know?

Is There A Maersk Vessel Down There? Not Likely --

Even The Stack On A Feeder Vessel Is Not So Wide. A Sunken Barge?

More Likely, This Is A Container Yard Flood Accident, With Stacks Toppled Due To Container Floating.

WOW! There Goes US$2M In Marine Cargo Claims!

Submitted By: Bonnie Peacock, STL Logistics (DFW) Inc. Grapevine, TX, USA

May 30 2002 Update

The Place: ?

The Time: ?

The Vessel: ?


There Was A Vessel Below!

In May 2002, Danny Cornelissen Sent Us Thsee New Photos -- Establishing That Our Entire Analysis of this loss was not correct. Indeed, This Is Not A Contaainer Yard Related Loss. This Is A Vessel Matter.
Following Norway's Accession To The "World Avacado Organization" In 1998, Many Nations Reversed Their Support For Treating Inbound U.S. Containers To The "Water Slide" Process. (Not True)
New Information To Us Suggests This Event Occurring On Or Near The Mississippi River (True)

We Currently Presume This To Be Inbound U.S. Cargo -- Likely Trans-Shipped From The Vessel Shown At Left

-- And Mishandled By The Barge Crew Shown At Right.

Quite Clearly -- More Information For This Loss Is Needed.

Please Contribute Your Information.

Given Our Current Internet World -- It is Possible That The Answer To This Riddle May Reside On Another Web Site

If So, Please Let Us Konw.

OUR "Container Pool" PHOTO CONTRIBUTOR: These new photos come from a respected Port Professional >>>

Danny Cornelissen (11-03-1967) who works in the Port of Rotterdam for "SHB" Personnel's Plannin. He says, "I'm very proud for my job as the "Radio Desk" in the Port of Rotterdam. The terminals I work at are "Maersk Delta", "ECT Delta","Hanno-Rotterdam" & "Uniport". My job is to take care that the discharge & loading of containerships (big or small) will be fast, safe & problemless."

"I stand on deck & must check every container position for loading or discharge on board. I have radio contact with the "Crane Master", the "Radio Shore" & the "Ships Planners." So if something goes wrong, I can always sound the alarm or make changes in the container movement process."

"You have seen that I like to make photo's from my job -- I always have a camera on board.

"Also I make pictures of my co-workers & materials to show on my homepage, so my friends can upload what they like."

"Many port-workers talk about the Cargo Law site now.

"I like your The Cargo Law site very much & I linked it to my homepage."

Greetings from Danny Cornelissen -- May 2002
Danny Cornelissen's Home Page Site


10 Months After Our May 2002 Publication -- Feb. 2003

Dear Cargo Law:

Your photos of the "Container Pool" were taken from the bridge of the M/V CSX Crusader -- a CSX Lines container vessel in the Mississippi River Gulf Outlet Canal outbound from the France Road New Orleans terminal to San Juan, Puerto Rico -- Fall 2001.

The barge in question was operated by Osprey Lines out of Houston and was carrying relay containers from Houston's Barbours Cut terminal to New Orleans. It either struck an underwater object -- or its trim was just a "tad off"...

The incident occurred when the tug pulling the barge executed a turn maneuver & got too close to a a dredger and got the barge's side sliced open. The tug captain never realized what happened & the dredge operator had to radio him to look back that his barge was sinking...

Gunther Hoock, CSX Lines -- February 12, 2003

EDITOR'S NOTE FOR SURVEYORS, ATTORNEYS & MARINE ADJUSTERS: The Internet edition effort of The Cargo Letter now celebrates it's 8th Year of Service -- making us quite senior in this segment of the industry. We once estimated container underway losses at about 1,500 per year. Lloyd's put that figure at about 10,000 earlier this year. Quite obviously, the reporting mechanism for these massive losses is not supported by the lines. News of these events is not posted to the maritime community. Our new project is to call upon you -- those handling the claims -- to let us know of each container loss at sea-- in confidentiality. Many of you survey on behalf of cargo interests with no need for confidentiality. Others work for the lines & need to be protected. As a respected Int'l publication, The Cargo Letter enjoys full press privileges & cannot be forced to disclose our sources of information. No successful attempt has ever been made. If a personal notation for your report is desired -- each contributor will be given a "hot link" to your company Website in each & every report. Please take moment & report your "overside" containers to us. If you do not wish attribution, your entry will be "anonymous." This will will benefit our industry -- for obvious reasons! McD

NOTE: The Cargo Letter wants you to know that by keeping the identity of our contributors 100% confidential, you are able to view our continuing series of "Cargo Disasters." Our friends send us materials which benefit the industry. The materials are provided to our news publication with complete and enforceable confidentiality for the sender. In turn, we provide these materials to you.  

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Your photos of the "Container Pool" were taken from the bridge of a CSX

Lines container vessel inthe Mississippi River Gulf Outlet Canal outbound

from the France Road New Orleans terminal to San Juan, Puerto Rico.

The barge in question was operated by Osprey Lines out of Houston and was

carrying relay containers from Houston's Barbours Cut terminal to New

Orleans. It either struck an underwater object or its trim was a tad off...


Gunther Hoock

CSX Lines

It was the "CSX Crusader". Feel free to quote me.